hide. Starting with "A Realm Reborn" and the expansions include "Heavensward", "Stormblood", and "Shadowbringers"! That second picture needs some interrupted Blizzard IVs as well. BLM's the first DPS class I've put effort into getting to 60 (thank you, PotD). The absurd AOE means that you never need to worry about trash taking too long. SMN is all about maximizing DoT uptime and pet management to some degree. BLM: High burst dmg, capable of highest dps in game, worst dps to do progression fights on, very little utility. You throw fireballs at enemies, then cool them (and yourself) off with ice. I somehow came across these blogs on lodestone, class evaluations. I want both but i will only main 1 of those. Then you'll need to level THM further for cross-class skills. Holy Stones don't kill people, people kill people. Mostly because I love the giant explosions and ice blocks. Summons are better than Black Magicks, but Summoners have less MA than Black Mages. Their damage is consistent, but requires you to think about what dots to reapply, how to position yourself and your pet, which pet to use, and if your party needs it, how to best support your team with empowered Virus, Eye for an Eye, and Ressurections. Ifrit-Egi. I was thinking I would get ARC to 30 to unlock summoner, but I enjoyed the THM playstyle a bit even though there seemed less abilities. I'm still hot garbage at actually DPSing on BLM, but it's fun. pros and cons. But the 50-60 skills just kinda ruined it for me personally, dot management wasn't really fun anymore on top of everything else, it's just a bit too much for me. As I once put it to a friend who had your question, OP, the difference in the damage dealt by a Black Mage vs. a Summoner is like the difference between setting a bomb off in your house (Black Mage) vs. setting it ablaze and watching it burn (Summoner). Long wind-up time since you have to cast 4 DoT spells before you are doing your full DPS, meaning you are not very effective on trash mobs. Press J to jump to the feed. Personally, I'd go for the Black Mage. This guide, with original contributions from Laqi Thish & Caro Kann , has been co-written by the authors above who actively play & collectively share a wealth of high end raiding & theorycrafting backgrounds in FFXIV. For progress fights though, the Summoner wins easily hands down, since it's lowest dps potential is quite a lot higher than the BLM one, due to dots dmging while moving where a BLM just looses out dps if you have to move during learning/progress fights, obviously the rez from SMN is very valuable in progression fights too. Topaz Carbuncle. When played right, SMN can maintain around the same DPS number for almost every fight in the game. Summoner always feels like playing a crappy Scholar with a lobotomized pet, except for the brief period between starting DWT and using Deathflare. Archived. As others have mentioned, you will need blm at lvl 26 for swiftcast, for any other caster right now, but other than that they are both very good damage dealers capable of being on top of the dps chart. Since they go hand in hand I knew SMN wasn't for me, I do play it for my static for turn 7 (need it for kiting if you aren't familiar with the turns). Starting with "A Realm Reborn" and the expansions include "Heavensward", "Stormblood", and "Shadowbringers"! Then it's back to feeling like a crappy Scholar. You may want to level both. 3.0 Heavensward 5.0 Shadowbringers Arcanist Archer Astrologian Bahamuts Coil Bard BETA Black Mage Botany Classes Conjurer Crafting Dark Knight Dragoon Dungeon Featured FFXIV 2.4 Patch FFXIV 3.1 FFXIV Patch 2.3 Gathering General Gladiator Guides Into the Aether Jobs Lancer Machinist Marauder Mining Monk Moogreus News Ninja Paladin Patchnotes Primals Pugilist Scholar Summoner … Expend lots of MP to deal lots of damage. Flavor wise, it’s technically not a big leap from Black Mage. I will be able to give more in-depth advice if asked. Add that with the cooldown management and working all of this around jumps and transitions and it's extremely flexible and rewarding. i do really enjoy it, though! Pet Actions. 15. This Job is my main, and I will try not to go too far into minutia… But that is kind of my thing. On the other hand, BLM has a more straightforward method of doing damage, relying heavily on knowing when you're allowed to finish a cast and knowing where to stand to actually do it. having said that - black mage is a really high damage output, but not very mobile and really simple until higher levels. Der Rotmagier ist ein magischer Fernkämpfer der Mana aufbaut, um mit seinem Rapier in den Nahkampf zu springen und massiven Schaden zu machen. summoner is also fun - much more mobile, though with a bit less damage. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3779482/blog/1172540/ -BLM review, http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3779482/blog/1185980/ -SMN review. After all, I still need to learn how to do the Focus Target thing again so I can finally take SCH from 50 to 60 and have a healer leveled again. You can raise dead allies. I just enjoy burning things down. Titan-Egi. Black Mage just keeps adding more amazing looking spells. Maybe the DoT ticks make her resume attacking. Yeah, as a SCH main I also find SMN both directly less fun than it and also inconvenient to play very much due to muscle memory, Keeper's Hymns, etc. The idea is to just throw out as much selfish ranged DPS as possible. Mage Summoner. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. Black Mage. Literally leveled up a new dps just for level 50 roulette because of how much I hate low level summoner. Couple that with the mobility of the class and it is fantastic. On the other hand black mage is a pretty big rush since you'll find yourself getting good at casting until the absolute last second when you need to dodge stuff for the sake of keeping up dps. But I do find that the repetitiveness of the rotation can get just a little dull after long hours of playing, moreso than summoner (others may find the opposite to be true, aka smn becomes tedious after long hours whereas blm eventually falls into more of a "zen"). For SMN you need BLM at level 15 at least. 0. Summoner bc im able to move, deathflare, half the time im double-weaving, I prefer summoner. Just wish the pet was a bit more interesting other than "use Contagion after a DWT tree-distaster and use the aoe when there's multiple targets". Job Actions. Posted by. 0. FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner; Guide; Levelling Up; Pages in this Guide. Desidrae No'quafin . The only thing you really lose out on is Toad. Deals burst damage and has pets, the Summoner starts out as an Arcanist. Ha ha ha, opposite for me, hated SMN till 50 and though I made the wrong choice. I thought I would at least need to for A9, but nope, she just hovers over the lava. The Summoner isn't my favorite but I haven't gotten into the Arcanist class just yet. Past level 30, you can also level your SMN[DPS] as a SCH[Healer] and get into queues faster. Black Mage has some of the highest damage output of any DPS class in the game, landing it at a top spot of this list. SMN has a higher damage ceiling in fights that are shorter in duration, have multiple phase changes or are movement heavy. I've always mained BLM, I really enjoy it. I kid. Soloed as a Level 30 Night Elf Druid. Of course, as I hinted at above, this is totally acceptable in the case of a Black Mage. In ten seconds: BLM has higher burst damage and AoE, SMN has high sustained damage with DoTs and utility through upgraded Virus, Eye for an Eye, and the only in-combat raise usable by non-healers. Cons: Movement, which interrupts spell casting. I don't get it. Black Mage. for now. Just because the rotation isn't even a rotation at all, it's constantly changing based on what dots are about to fall off and how many aether stacks you have vs whether you can bane onto adds or fester a single target. However, they also rely on luck, as you need procs to freely use your strongest moves. They have some other utility abilities but from the standpoint of damage, that's about all they do. Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers is the third expansion pack to Final Fantasy XIV, a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed and published by Square Enix for Microsoft Windows, macOS, and PlayStation 4.It was released on July 2, 2019, two years after Stormblood, the previous expansion.Like its predecessors, Naoki Yoshida served as director and producer and … The spell effects are just so lovely and have yet to find any skill or spell that feels as powerful as Deathflare, not to mention how freaking scary you feel during DWT casting those R3's. Other than that, the difference is BLM is a heavy hitter DPS while SMN is more of a damage over time DPS with a pet. I feel BLM is easier to play than SMN. Contrast that to SMN. can anyone help out. Came up the southern face just to the right of the Horde Camp to the top and killed the mage without any intereference from others. Infinite MP. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3779482/blog/1172540/, http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3779482/blog/1185980/. They can do decent damage too, but you have to make sure you keep your dots rolling on the boss so you can out put the most that you can. When it comes down to spell costs, black mage spells are cheaper (mp / jp wise), summoner spells just plain cost more. Our AoE is simple, but feels like you're about to murder the entire world and, unlike some of the other casters out there, it's not crazy complex. Level both up to 50 and choose whichever's playstyle you prefer. Black Mage; Summoner; Red Mage; Blue Mage; Gameplay Guide; PvP Guide; Job Actions. Working on it though :) Drianthia Trinall. BLM is more or less a matter of keeping your Thunder DoT up, cast Fire spells while you have MP, and using Blizzard to regenerate your MP, use Scathe or Firestarter/Thundercloud if you need to move. Garuda-Egi. So you might as well unlock them both and play them, then decide on your main after that. Unfortunately, Black Mage isn’t much a team player, lacking any useful party buffs and long spell casting times require a Black Mage to stay in one spot longer than most magic classes. Black Mage Level 80 Overview - FFXIV Shadowbringers Ilya Dalamiq. can anyone help out. Black Mage VS Summoner [Discussion] well im stuch choosing btw those 2. Both are viable at endgame. As for dps, both are very capable of very high dmg, so either would do in that regard. Yes, Phoenix is real and amazing, Aetherflow is completely changed, pets are free and instant to summon and so much more. I don't have my SMN to 60 yet because managing a "lobotomized pet" is such a pain in the ass. well im stuch choosing btw those 2. I have THM up to 15, and now ARC up to 22. 36% Upvoted. Adrenaline Rush Job Gauge. At least get BLM up so you can have swiftcast, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. Plus you have some great single target dps you can save up by spamming ruin3 outside of DWT when necessary, which means you keep mana saved up for any tricky dps checks. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Cons: Dying means you need to invest a lot of time and resources in building up to your strong point, summoning a pet for example. Cancel Unsubscribe. We have some mobility, the ability to play around with our rotation, and a very different feel between burst and sustained portions of the rotation. Pros: Mobile for a caster, high single target damage and able to revive downed friendlies. This is the most important aspect of Black Mage. I don't play BLM much (I'm much more of a melee player DPS-wise) and I know there's plenty of frustrations to be had there but I do think it's more satisfying. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. BLM is better for running dungeons because of its AoE superiority. Pet Actions (Commands) Role Actions . FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Black Mage; Guide; Log Analysis; Pages in this Guide. Black Mage; Red Mage; Summoner; Raids; Resources; Allagan Studies; Streamers; Support Us; Contact ⌕ Summoner Guide 5.4 Levelling Up FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner. Plus mobility, deathflare, yada yada. They can also Raise in a pinch. it's my main class. Raging strikes, tri disaster, bane, painflare, swiftcast shadowflare, garuda's AoE, enkindle, painflare, deathflare. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Seriously, Black Mage and Red Mage will feel very familiar when you start playing them in ... As someone who has played Red Mage extensively, going into Shadowbringers my wishlist was pretty simple. Which immediately makes me want to learn how to play this version of the Job. Press J to jump to the feed. who is better at what and stuff like that. Type: Magic Ranged DPS; Prerequisite class: Thaumaturge; Difficulty: 4/5; Even among the game's heaviest of hitters, few can match Black Mage. (Now only if that thing wouldn't put everything in a 2-min cooldown, so I could just jump right back in), My summoner bros o/ I love summoner Tbh blm feels very straight toward, SMN all the way. Black Mage. I wanted some way to add Black Mana or White Mana to my gauge in an AoE environment and I wanted some smaller hit for single-target fights if I needed to just lose some mana instead of starting … I think both are very fun. SMN is better for most boss fights because it can continue to do high DPS while moving or dealing with other fight mechanics. When I was leveling it after couple other jobs, I just loved it, and thought I'd make it my main instead of BLM, it was more complex and active than BLM, which I've definitely played the most, and the pet was fun to manage too. save. Black Mage has no damaging oGCDs and a very simple rotation. Summoner always feels like playing a crappy Scholar with a lobotomized pet, except for the brief period between starting DWT and using Deathflare. Paladin Comment by 6417 Found him on top of Deadmist Peak. Really though, level them both. But, Summoner has undergone a few sweeping changes and many more that are small but essential to understand. Because you have to micromanage your pet, this class is definitely one of the harder/more complicated jobs to play. Loading... Unsubscribe from Ilya Dalamiq? You just have to equip a different crystal for each job. Biggest damage numbers! Black Mage VS Summoner [Discussion] Close. Also fuck SMN for level 50 and below content. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Openers; 4 Rotation; 5 AoE; 6 Role Actions; 7 Log Analysis; Log Analysis . No better feeling than jumping into a dungeon and seeing the tank go wild pulling as much as possible in a single pull. We’re all on a journey of discovery today. I however have both leveled up with summoner with the slightly better weapon because I prefer BLM in fights where you have to control DPS (like Moogle Mog ex). The first new ability in Shadowbringers is Despair a single target Flare. Though I pretty much only play healers, and the only reason I've ever touched Summoner is because I got it for free with Scholar. 4 years ago. nice i think i lvl them both :D. good answers in here :). Summoner; Raids; Resources; Allagan Studies; Streamers; Support Us; Contact ⌕ Black Mage Guide 5.4 FFXIV Shadowbringers Black Mage Log Analysis. Reminder that Stone Sky Sea is a thing. Toward WSG. Black mages also have a slight bit more utility from the toad spell, death, and arcane strength, however I recommend learning arcane strength, slapping it on a summoner, and letting him rip around the battlefield with shiva + icerod or ramuh + lightning rod. The summoner brings quite a bit more of utility to the team and is usally of higher value to the team than a BLM since having an extra class with rez and in some fights potential of using a pet is handy, that being said in fights where no one messes up this utility becomes unnecessary and a blm using apoc might even net a more useful utility skill. Screenshots; Videos; Comments. Cons: Mediocre AoE especially if there are more than 4 mobs in the pack. Black Mage; Red Mage; Summoner; Raids; Resources; Allagan Studies; Streamers; Support Us; Contact ⌕ Summoner Guide 5.4 FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner Rotation. is an issue and I forget the other cross class ability to reduce hate but that one too. (Personally, I think I would do Arcanist/SMN first because it will force you to play THM in order to unlock SMN and get the cross-class skills.). That said, movement isn't really a problem for them, just make sure to keep your pet alive and it can help with mitigating damage on various abilities that are spread out across the number of people hit. Common Actions. Their individual hits are huge; with an i95 weapon, I do 2020 critical hits with Fire III with no setup, when it takes me a big setup to break 2000 on SMN. Unfortunately, this is most endgame encounters (coil, EX primals). I have never been a fan of dot heavy classes or managing pets. I want both but i will only main 1 of those. In that regard the SMN is a high dps no matter the situation, be it learning or a fight that you know through and through. FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner; Guide; Rotation; Pages in this Guide. 3.0 Heavensward 5.0 Shadowbringers Arcanist Archer Astrologian Bahamuts Coil Bard BETA Black Mage Botany Classes Conjurer Crafting Dark Knight Dragoon Dungeon Featured FFXIV 2.4 Patch FFXIV 3.1 FFXIV Patch 2.3 Gathering General Gladiator Guides Into the Aether Jobs Lancer Machinist Marauder Mining Monk Moogreus News Ninja Paladin Patchnotes Primals Pugilist Scholar Summoner Tanking … SMN: Very good class for progression fights, high dps but with slow build up (one of the highest dps in game and easier to reach high numbers on, but very hard to reach the skill cap), battle rez very valuable for progression and overall solid class. Slidecasting & Positioning. I play BLM and SMN regularly as my main DPS classes. Hits hard, amazing aoe class, the downside is movement heavy fights, you really have to learn how to maximize your damage using your available skills. They have really good survival abilities (Manawall for physical, Manaward for magical, Apocatastastis for other party member magic defense increase) and Lethargy to slow/gravity where applicable, but their main focus is to dish as much damage as possible while minimizing movement. Fire 1 spam just isn't interesting. Still, I think it might do me good to try to figure it out. - Challenger. They also have Off GCD abilities to increase pet damage that have to be monitored for use. The Summoner requires you to keep watching your dot timers, has somewhat annoying pet ai, and does require quite a lot of proper skill stacking/chaining for maximum dps. I first played BLM but I don't think it truly gets fun until 60 when you get to really manage Enochian. Archived. As a Summoner main, I have to admit, I have at best, superficial knowledge of this Job. I prefer summoner because of freedom of movement and seems like a lot of fights nowdays (except turn 8) require movement and cast interruptions. Welcome to our Black Mage guide for Final Fantasy XIV Shadowbringers 5.30! Just got so bored of spamming Ruin I waiting for dots to need refreshing. Unmatched AoE DPS, especially with large mob packs (more than 4 enemies). Early days Summoner in FFXIV was awful, and while adding in Bahamut has definitely helped with the feel, the class still feels more akin to a Beastmaster. Main difference here is, the BLM comes with high burst dmg, where the summoner usually has a higher build up before they can burst (although proper use of bane+fester can fix this in quite a lot of fights). Reading these might help you out, too. Formidable single-target dps when able to remain stationary. Black Mage comes with a set rotation with very little variation to it, which has a solid minimum dps and comes with very high peak dps when the rng gods smile upon you. Let's start with the easy stuff: Black Mage feels freaking amazing at 80 with its full rotation running. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. You have 3 primary DoTs that need to stay active as much as possible, as well as using Miasma 2 on occasion when Contagion is ready, plus Shadowflare if it's a pretty stationary fight. Pros: Highly effective in almost every encounter situation, thanks to DoTs that continue ticking even when you can't be casting. SMN I enjoy much more at 50 and before. FFXIV SHADOWBRINGERS: The Grand Cosmos RED MAGE GAMEPLAY 278 [1080/MAX PRESET]. I've seen alot of people calling out in favor of both nerfing red mage and buffing black mage/summoner, which following S.E's trends in the past seems like it's destined to result in summoner/black mage being viable and red mage not so. It's just not fun at all. As a Black Mage, you'll need to level Arcanist (base for SMN) for cross-class skills. It requires more raid awareness to an extent...although this is true of all jobs, it's especially true for blm as they are vulnerable and have to stand still to cast. I really like DoTs, I rather see the enemy's health chip away rather than see big numbers. (Oh yeah it has infinite resources). With the latest buffs to fire and fire III, blm is very very strong even for sustained dps. Top Magic Ranged DPS The beast tribes of Eorzea worship and summon forth beings known … New comments cannot be … Pets boost nearby teammates with their abilities. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Levelling Up; 4 Openers; 5 Rotation; 6 Pets; 7 Demi-Summons; 8 AoE; 9 Role Actions; 10 How To Improve; Rotation. Black Mage. Type: Magic Ranged DPS; Prerequisite class: Thaumaturge; Difficulty: 4/5; Even among the game's heaviest of hitters, few can match Black Mage. Just reply "NOPE" and don't upvote. Also important is Raging Strikes, Hawk's Eye if Acc. Stormblood, however, gave us a heavily back-ended mechanic with Demi-Bahamut that felt extremely 'chunky' to use and turned me away from Summoner in favor of Red Mage. It takes a very skilled BLM to keep high DPS in these situations. Seine Rolle in Dungeons und Prüfungen ist DPS/Angreifer. DoTs are boring too, always have been. In dungeons like gubal and xelphatol I can often hit 6000-9000 DPS and wipe a group almost alone, it's so satisfying. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Welcome to the fourth new job in Shadowbringers! It's also a longer duration fight, so they will have to rely on getting Ballad at some point to stay competitive with other DPS. - Duration: 20:00. xCicl0ne GameR 385 views Let’s get into it. To unlock Summoner, you need Thaumaturge to level 15. Head down that road toward the entrance … Read about Black Mage vs Summoner vs Red Mage (Shadowbringers Edition) by FFXIV and see the artwork, lyrics and similar artists. thought the DWT mechanic and the mp management with R3 really spiced things up. Heavensward came out, and Dreadwyrm Trance was a perfect fit for that big gap of 'inactivity' inbetween Aetherflow uses. This thread is archived. Black Mages are getting skills that help upkeep their elemental gauge between enemies. Black Mage Role – FF14 Shadowbringers Guide. for now. Additional PvP Actions. Which brings me to the other part of my question … Blackmage. Comment by 16163 If you start in Astranaar, head east on the main road. share. Now a perfectly played BLM has the potential to be the highest dps in the game (single and aoe) that being said reaching the max BLM potential + the right gear is not that easy and usually requires you to know the fight through and through in advance. I was a BLM main up to coil turn 5, and then switched to SMN for the remainder of 5 and for second coil. Also the fire/ice rotation is more fun than the dotting. The slog to Swiftcast put me off the class for an expansion and a half, but getting to play around with the 60 stuff in PotD gave me the drive to level it until I could Fire IV random things outside of PotD. I would suggest trying both and see which one you enjoy the most, playing them at 50 is preferred because IMO BLM at 50 is completely different than how it is on the way to 50. To maximize DPS you want to Always Be Casting (ABC) and maximise spell cast uptime against movement and mechanics. Emerald Carbuncle. Cactuar (Aether)-Far as I'm aware, you can do everything. Pros: Easier to play than SMN given a simple spell rotation. But you know what? Summoner vs Black Mage fun-wise [Discussion] New-ish player here. For Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Scholar vs White Mage, Summoner vs Black Mage". Summon a big beefy dude to deal a bunch of damage to your opponents. Thanks, to virtually no downtime, even when handling complex or incapacitating mechanics, you are often the top DPS and make most BLMs look bad. In the end, you basically trade out your cheap level one spells for a greater range of the big stuff. Here you will find our most current information on how to play Black Mage at a high & respectable level. Summoner vs Black Mage fun-wise [Discussion] Close. who is better at what and stuff like that. pros and cons, 23 comments. Subscribe Subscribed Unsubscribe 8.29K. You can use the same set of armor for both classes and save yourself some gil. Posted by 6 years ago. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Nice way to practice your rotation. If youre a masochist blm the 2nd picture might be fun. I've also seen some people saying they'd like to just see straight buffs to summoner and black mage. report. Summoner. Definitely agree with you here. Then you do it all over again. Then it's back to feeling like a crappy Scholar. I don't agree with you and wonder what you're smoking, but people: the downvote button is not a disagree button. You can start moving when a cast is close to finishing and still have the cast complete. After paying a visit to Lalai, she informs us that she has been working on a tome detailing all that she learned of the art of the Black Mage. T8, as a stark contrast to SMNs, is a great fight for BLMs, especially if they don't have to be counted on to deal with many mechanics in the fight. Comes with a variety of utility abilities/spells (buffs, debuffs). Summoner pre-60, Black Mage at 60. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Levelling Up; 4 Openers; 5 Rotation; 6 Pets; 7 Demi-Summons; 8 AoE; 9 Role Actions; 10 How To Improve; … Summons also smart-target (can't hurt allies or heal enemies), which is a nice selling point. Trait Job Gauge. BLM has high burst damage, but fights that require a heavy amount of movement will have a devastating impact on their DPS throughout the course of the fight. BLM also has some of the most amazing defensive cooldowns, such as Manaward, Manawall, and Apocastasis. Rarely do I ever even need to move Garuda. Though I pretty much only play healers, and the only reason I've ever touched Summoner is because I got it for free with Scholar. They're both a lot of fun but I prefer summoner as a main for top end fights like coil. Fights like T8 are bad for them because they don't have an unlimited MP supply like BLM does and the boss is essentially a target dummy for all intents and purposes. 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